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Phillip Jensen speaks on Anger as part of a series on emotions in the Christian life, delivered at the Australia Day Convention 2010
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I like Joe Hockey and without getting into politics, I think one day he will make a great prime minister for this country.
I was very interested in his address to the Sydney Institute this week, (November 9) “In Defence of God”.
There was both good and bad about it at once.
To his credit, Mr Hockey was arguing, “What we as a society must not do is allow our secularity to be a reason for ignoring those who are truly inspirational just because they are people of faith”.
In fact, he argued for a place for people of faith as well as for genuine freedom of religion and belief. I get the feeling he was speaking against the grumpy old atheists like Hitchens et al who want to completely marginalise believers in society. In fact, he went further in claiming that “A secular society imbued with the values that faith engenders will be stronger not weaker”.
But there were some things that troubled me as well.
Firstly, Mr Hockey was defending “faith.” He even says, “In this speech I use the term God as an analogy for faith in all its forms”. Faith was a common feature of the various religions. This meant that in arguing for tolerance he chose the form of tolerance which depends upon the thing being tolerated being basically the same, not tolerance which copes with difference.
In fact, the assumption of his address was that faith, no matter what religion you are, is fundamentally that thing, that leads to the values of compassion and concern and tolerance, and that extremists in any faith really don’t count.
In other words, tolerance only existed because we happened anyway to agree seemed to be the underlying subtext of his remarks. This, of course, is not really religious freedom.
Secondly, as far as I could see, there was only one reference to Jesus Christ in the entire piece, although Mr Hockey identifies with the Christian faith: “In the past that inspiration has often come from the works of the saints, the mystics, the prophets and in the case of my faith, from the teaching and example of Jesus Christ”.
The concept of religion and God which runs through the paper therefore was shallow, weak and in danger of becoming the lowest common ethical denominator.
Surprisingly for one who at one level rightly claimed a real tentative knowledge of God, Mr Hockey also makes very clear religion can be used, he says, “in ways that no loving and forgiving God can possibly have envisaged or decreed”. In other words, he understands what God must be like even though he doesn’t want to make clear how he knows that.
Thirdly, one of the important points that Mr Hockey makes, following along the work of Karen Armstrong’s The Case for God (which I read recently and is very much a sophisticated version of the points Joe Hockey makes in this paper), was that literal interpretation of Scripture makes faith less believable and leads to all kinds of other troubles. Joe Hockey’s examples were the famous Scopes “monkey” trial of 1925 about the literal statement of creation and the place where (the fictional) President Jeb Bartlett of West Wing critiques a Christian opponent of homosexual behaviour by drawing attention to the other prescriptions in Leviticus which the person didn’t want to keep. Hockey regards this literalism as alienating.
The problem with this is that the language of ‘no literalism’ says and proves nothing. As a matter of fact, I do not believe that the Genesis creation story does compel me to hold anything like a literal account of a brief recent-time special series of miraculous divine events. Nor do I believe that restrictions in Leviticus about slavery, not wearing two different kinds of cloth or consuming pig meat apply to me today. But the reason is not simply that I have moved away from literalism. It is much more theologically sophisticated than that, as I am sure Sydneyanglican.net blog readers are well aware. It is a pity that Joe Hockey’s words give the impression that religion is okay as long as you didn’t take it too seriously, just water it down. That’s not the answer to the problems of religion.
However, not all is for criticism. When all was said and done, there is a lesson for us Christians in what Mr Hockey said. It was impressive that he wanted to say that matters of faith do have a place and, more importantly for us, showed that the great critique on Christian faith will not be questions of truth but questions of morality.
And that it is incumbent upon us to show that true Christian faith genuinely enhances human wellbeing and life and can even contribute importantly to a freer, more compassionate and more loving society. I know this is not going to be proof of anything, but it seems to me that those are the terms today in which a lot of our apologetic needs to move. Even if Joe Hockey’s defence of God was inadequate, he does raise questions that are inescapable.


“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.”
Find it here
Worth a read to see an example of where secular leaders are currently landing on this issue.
I want to talk about how to comment. Mostly, the conservative christian commentators simply took Hockey to task for failure to really engage with the scriptures. Which was accurate, but didn't seem to say much more than "This is the real truth". Which is nice for those who agree, but otherwise just confirms prejudices of arrogance. How does one comment on religious articles in a (hostile) public forum in a way that provokes question rather than argument, enquiry rather than dismissal? Any thoughts?
For what it's worth, I think Barney Zwartz (SMH religious writer) tends to do very well. His articles and comments seem focused on getting people to think intelligently about religious/Christian claims and interact with them, rather than stating or proving that he knows the right of it.
A great Liberal Prime Minister!??? This an impossibility, an oxymoron: ipso facto, any Liberal PM would uphold (corporate and private) greed, and favour the rich minority at the expense of the poor. Just scrutinize the social-policy record of the previous prime-ministerial incumbent, who seems to believe - along with most right-wingers - that Australia is merely an economy...
Bishop Forsyth: you can't avoid politics when discussing a politician!
"For me this is the essential message of all faiths – that we should love our neighbour as we love ourselves."
Sounds a lot like a works gospel to me.
Another problem followed straight after...
"The God of my faith is not full of revenge as the Old Testament would suggest with a literal interpretation. The God of my faith does not cause earthquakes or tsunamis as acts of retribution."
It seems Hockey does not want a God that is just. It seems Hockey does not want a God who is sovereign. It seems all he wants is a God who is tolerant.
But praise God for Mr Hockey's speech! It was a great opportunity to discuss "religion" with those who may usually be uninterested.
If only we as conservative christians could all be gifted in writing humble, thought provoking, christ exalting comments. I wish I was gifted in this - often I just read a page or two of comments, get annoyed by what someone wrote, start writing something, then read it and realise I sound arrogant and don't end up saying anything. Need to work on that.
Barney Zwartz and family worship at Donvale PC.
I'm staggered that the biggest story doing the rounds: Copenhagen and global warming is not getting a run?
True, but I miss it.
Come on Jeremy, we need some livening up!
He agrees that a secular state is needed. So would "fundamentalist" Christians. We advocate a free church in a free state as the outworking of our understanding of soul liberty as the personal province of each individual to choose to believe or reject Christ or any other viewpoint should they wish without threat from the State (as opposed to secularism which advocates humanism for everyone regardless of personal conscience).
Joe seems to be arguing for a secular situation allowing tolerance for all belief systems EXCEPT those opposed to the personal freedoms of the individual ( i.e. Islamic fundamentalism, Crusader mentality), however he does so by being intolerant to the beliefs of Christians who may take a more literalistic approach to the Scriptures. By highlighting the Scopes monkey trial he has in fact opposed his own view point of tolerance within a secular state to advocate government power over personal individual beliefs. In the USA both sides had the opportunity to put their case for and against evolution being taught as fact in schools. Because of the complicated nature of the US constitution being interpreted as advocating freedom FROM religion rather than freedom OF religion in a secular state, the Scopes trial battle is still being fought.
Joe is correct, that in a secular state we must allow freedom OF religion...
While we must applaud him for recognissing soul liberty as an important value, he has not adequately understood the iisues surrounding faith and values.