Has anyone been using this bible

thoughts, comments, concerns, recommendations

I’ve read about half the Bible using it. It seems good. It comes across as a very ‘fresh’ translation in terms of his English expression. A few times a phrase is translated in a certain way that makes me run to the original languages and compare with other translations and usually there is no problem the phrase just having struck me because it is not the way I have usually read it in the NIV.

Uses the word propitiation which is interesting e.g. (1Jn 4:10) Love consists in this: not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Conservative translation in contemporary English.

Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holman_Christian_Standard_Bible

and

http://www.bible-researcher.com/csb-intro.html

I don’t use it but Adrian Russell at St Paul’s Carlingford swears by it. You could phone him and chat about it I’m sure.

Hi,

I am not “expert” on the HCSB, but I have just reviewed a sample of verses from Paul’s letters where the ESV reduces comprehension by using archaic language, Biblish or non-English word order.

In nearly every case the HCSB’s contemporary English was clearly better than the ESV while retaining identical or virtually identical meaning.

Despite the hype created in some circles, I have never been comfortable to recommend the ESV as a general-purpose 21st century translation for most people, although it can be useful for comparison in close bible study.

The HCSB certainly seems to improve on the ESV in its use of contemporary English.

Grace & peace,
Terry
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Hi Terry. I guess folk know they can download the Holman Bible for use in e-sword. There’s also a free module for BibleWorks users.

I like the ESV for study purposes. I find it is a good version to use in our Bible study group, which is currently doing Romans. The cross references in my ESV Reformation Study Bible are helpful.

It can be read online here http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/index.php?action=getVersionInfo&vid=77

David McKay - 22 April 2008 02:18 PM

Hi Terry. I guess folk know they can download the Holman Bible for use in e-sword.

Hi David,

Yes, that’s what I did - downloaded the HCSB from e-sword.
It was US$9.99 well spent in my mind.

I can run it in e-sword’s Parallel window alongside the NIV/TNIV and the NET Bible [and sometimes even the ESV 8-) ].

Grace & peace,
Terry
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e-sword’s modules used to be free, Terry, but more and more of them are now being charged for.

This is disappointing

David McKay - 22 April 2008 07:59 PM

e-sword’s modules used to be free, Terry, but more and more of them are now being charged for.

This is disappointing

Hi David,

I think it depends on the policy of the translation’s copyright owner.

The NIV/TNIV family, NLT and HCSB are being charged for,
whereas the ESV is available free of charge
(and e-sword itself is a free download for those who may not be aware).

I think that is smart marketing by the ESV owners.

Undeserved favour & peace,
Terry

Yes, but when i signed up Terry, the only ones you had to pay for were NASB and Amplified.
[I reckon anyone who pays for the Amplified is crazy, a knucklehead, a few sandwiches short of a picnic, etc, etc]

We once had a man in our church who brought, transported, carried the Amplified Bible, Scriptures, Word of God to our Bible study, home group, share family…

It was tedious, boring, painful ...

I agree David and concur with your views and applaud your sentiments.  I too have sat through bible studies with an owner of an amplified bible and it drove me to distraction.  Often this person would challenge an interpretation of a passage (by our minister, too, not just a mere bible study leader) based on one of the more extreme plethora of alternatives on offer.  After a few weeks of endless disputation on misleading minutiae we solved the problem by giving them an esv, which the rest of the group already used.  Sweet succinctness ensued!

David McKay - 23 April 2008 12:15 AM

Yes, but when i signed up Terry, the only ones you had to pay for were NASB and Amplified.
[I reckon anyone who pays for the Amplified is crazy, a knucklehead, a few sandwiches short of a picnic, etc, etc]

We once had a man in our church who brought, transported, carried the Amplified Bible, Scriptures, Word of God to our Bible study, home group, share family…

It was tedious, boring, painful ...

LOL
I think, believe, consider that the Amplified Bible was one of the more bizarre manifestations of the American cultural assumption that bigger is always better.
Grace & peace,
Terry