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Against Veggie Tales and Relevance
09 October 2008 8:02pm
698 posts
  [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]

Just a thought on King George and the Rubber Ducky (which I haven’t seen).  If the objection to it is that it subverts the message of its intended Biblical counterpart, then that’s a fair criticism.  If, on the otherhand, the objection is that stealing a rubber ducky is too trivial compared to David’s sin, well . . . is not even minor theft an affront to a righteous and holy God, and a rejection of his kingship, and therefore worthy of his just condemnation?  Perhaps a three, four or five year old, is quicker to see this than we are!  Oh, and how did they handle David’s murder of Uriah etc. in the Veggie Tales account?
Bob

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09 October 2008 8:10pm
337 posts
  [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
Bob Cameron - 09 October 2008 08:02 PM

Oh, and how did they handle David’s murder of Uriah etc. in the Veggie Tales account?
Bob

Probably some foreign veg like an eggplant got julienned.

Veggie Tales airs on US TV aiming to reach all kids, whether christian or not. Their stated purpose is: “Our mission is to enhance the spiritual and moral fabric of society through creative media.” They’re not just talking to churched kids.

I read that they removed the Bible verses from the ends of the episodes.

   
09 October 2008 8:20pm
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
Bob Cameron - 09 October 2008 08:02 PM

Just a thought on King George and the Rubber Ducky (which I haven’t seen).  If the objection to it is that it subverts the message of its intended Biblical counterpart, then that’s a fair criticism.  If, on the otherhand, the objection is that stealing a rubber ducky is too trivial compared to David’s sin, well . . . is not even minor theft an affront to a righteous and holy God, and a rejection of his kingship, and therefore worthy of his just condemnation?  Perhaps a three, four or five year old, is quicker to see this than we are!  Oh, and how did they handle David’s murder of Uriah etc. in the Veggie Tales account?
Bob

Uriah was put in the front line of the Great Pie war, and received a pie directly to the face. He was left shaken, but generally unharmed. :-)

   
09 October 2008 8:24pm
335 posts
  [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
Bob Cameron - 09 October 2008 08:02 PM

...If, on the otherhand, the objection is that stealing a rubber ducky is too trivial compared to David’s sin, well . . . is not even minor theft an affront to a righteous and holy God, and a rejection of his kingship, and therefore worthy of his just condemnation?  ...

Also, if memory servers me correctly, wasn’t the Sin of David coveting Bathsheba?

I believe we did this story in a beach mission play once - and I think we substituted chocolate (?) for a naked woman.  It seemed to go down better with the kids (and their parents!).

Of course - if the Veggie lesson of the story is what people have quoted (Share More) - that seems to be quite wrong.

Mike

   
09 October 2008 10:13pm
532 posts
  [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]

The lesson of King George was to not covet what your neighbour has. 

Uriah in the show actually was so traumatised by the war they feared he would never recover and forever be stuck mentally in the war fearing for his life.  Though in the end he did recover.

Esther Vegetales was about God choosing a saviour to rescue his people from the Island of perpetual tickling.  Though this saviour was terrified to do the job that faced her she trusted God to deliver her and her people.

   
09 October 2008 10:47pm
335 posts
  [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
Craig Thacker - 09 October 2008 10:13 PM

The lesson of King George was to not covet what your neighbour has. 

I’m fairly happy with that. 

Of course - I would desire to put it in a biblical theological framework, pointing out that David was a flawed king, and pointing towards the final King - Jesus - who did not fail as David fails, and when we fail by coveting our neighbor’s toys (or rubber duckies or chocolate), died on the cross to forgive us.  It shows how serious sin is - even coveting our friends ducks.  But it shows God’s grace.

you know - with all this talk of ducks and chocolate and pies, I’m just confused.

Moral of my post: Moralising is bad. Christ Centred stories are good.  But that doesn’t mean ignore the moral of the story ;-)

Mike

mmmmm - ducks.  I’m hungry.

   
09 October 2008 11:08pm
698 posts
  [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]

Our local Thai restaurant (actually, one of the local flotilla of Thai restaurants) does a great Duck Pad Se Ew.  Not at all rubbery!

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10 October 2008 11:30am
337 posts
  [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]

Here’s the solution…

MeatyTales!

   
27 October 2008 1:54pm
45 posts
  [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
Craig Thacker - 08 October 2008 09:01 PM

Personally I think the Vegetale series is to be recommended as a resource for children and really it is far better than what is aimed at children on T.V. most days of the week.

Hi Craig,

I’ve been thinking about what you’ve said about these guys, and I think you’re right. I might check out some of the ones I’ve left unwatched to re-evaluate. :)

   
27 October 2008 6:51pm
305 posts
  [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]

While on the topic of children’s entertainment, be it known that ‘our’ Colin Buchanan has completely lifted the chorus of ‘Planet Earth’ by Duran Duran and plonked it as the chorus of ‘Words that end in Shun’ from his new album ‘Super Saviour’.

So there.

   
27 October 2008 11:32pm
532 posts
  [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]

Kristen
The Big Idea Web site is also (in my opinion) the best kids friendly website around

http://bigidea.com/index.aspx

There are all sorts of games, worksheets, previews of episodes and lots more all free.

   
   
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