Good to see that our prime minister is prepared to say what he believes and also that did it with tact and humility.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd says the ordered nature of the cosmos convinces him of the existence of God.

Mr Rudd, a regularly practising Anglican, was on Friday asked on Fairfax Radio in Brisbane to give his single biggest argument in favour of the existence of God.

“As you know I’m a believer and I’ve never pretended not to be and I respect those who have no religious belief - it’s a free country,” Mr Rudd said.

“For me, it’s ultimately the order of the cosmos or what I describe as the creation.

“You can’t simply have, in my own judgment, creation simply being a random event because it is so inherently ordered, and the fact that the natural environment is being ordered where it can properly coexist over time.

“If you were simply reducing that to mathematically probabilities I’ve got to say it probably wouldn’t have happened.

“So I think there is an intelligent mind at work.”

Mr Rudd said in his entire political life he had never been asked in a media interview to prove the existence of God.

“You ... have a world first,” Mr Rudd said.

An oder to the Universe....but not to the Divine law

Pro homosexual and pro abortion.

A former catholic who left the Catholic Church for the broader path of Anglicanism....

Give me a William Morris Hughes anyday....

How is Prime Minister Rudd pro-abortion?

Favouring the strident Billy Hughes? Solely because he was Roman Catholic?

David McKay - 30 August 2008 10:44 AM

Favouring the strident Billy Hughes? Solely because he was Roman Catholic?

On the contrary, I gather he was some sort of Nonconformist (our first RC PM was Scullin.)

Mr Rudd, a regularly practising Anglican, was on Friday asked on Fairfax Radio in Brisbane to give his single biggest argument in favour of the existence of God.

“As you know I’m a believer and I’ve never pretended not to be and I respect those who have no religious belief - it’s a free country,” Mr Rudd said.

“For me, it’s ultimately the order of the cosmos or what I describe as the creation.

“You can’t simply have, in my own judgment, creation simply being a random event because it is so inherently ordered, and the fact that the natural environment is being ordered where it can properly coexist over time.

“If you were simply reducing that to mathematically probabilities I’ve got to say it probably wouldn’t have happened.

“So I think there is an intelligent mind at work.”

Good on Kevin Rudd on saying what he believes. I agree with his argument..

Good on Kevin Rudd on saying what he believes. I agree with his argument..

Let the people say “Amen!”

Billy Hughes was a Welshman, and a local village parish church has a memorial to him!

Robert ian Williams - 30 August 2008 10:12 AM

[re Kevin Rudd]
A former catholic who left the Catholic Church for the broader path of Anglicanism....

Give me a William Morris Hughes anyday....

Hi Robert, Michael, David and everyone,

It is possible Billy Hughes religious affiliations may have been somewhat fluid, as his political affiliations certainly were.

However, three facts I can find are:
+ his father was a deacon of the Particular Baptist Church in the U.K.;
+ after the death of Billy Hughes’ first wife, Billy married his second wife in an Anglican ceremony in Melbourne in 1911;
+ Billy Hughes’ State Funeral in 1952 was held at......
St Andews (Anglican) Cathedral in Sydney.

The source for those three facts is the Australian Dictionary of Biography.

Grace & peace,
Terry