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What sort of review is this??? 
01 October 2005 9:41pm
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]

Does anyone know—is there any book-length response to Spong?  If there’s not, I reckon one is needed.

Such a book would have to be at the accessible, popular level, as that is how Spong himself writes, and it is in stores like Angus and Robertson that you’ll find Spong’s books (alongside the Dalai Lama, last I saw).  Perhaps a book in response to Spong could be sold in those stores too—a kind of Christian coffee-table book!  The response would have to be both intellectually incisive, and engaging and readable (I’m thinking John Dickson-style).  I suggest it also construct a positive tone, arguing for “true relevance”, rather than a combative tone of “attack and destroy”.  Its aim would be not to demolish Spong’s proclamations but to win over those he woos.

What do people reckon?

   
02 October 2005 9:03am
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]

I think that´s a good idea.
A good solid dialogue and arguement is needed.
So far Spong really has all the runs on the board outside the church (and a few on the inside too)

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03 October 2005 12:42am
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]

There was a book “Ressurection-Truth and Reality” put out by Paul Barnett, Peter Jensen, and David Peterson in response to Jack Spong’s 1994 book “Ressurection-Myth or Reality”. It was published by Aquila. I think it was similar to what you are suggesting Arthur. I don’t think A&R would ever have stocked it though.
The problem is that Jack Spong never replys to any concerns that are raised by other Christians except to deride those raising the concerns as fundementalists.

   
03 October 2005 10:34pm
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]

About 10 years ago, NT Wright wrote a brief book entitled “Who was Jesus” - it responded to AN Wilson, Barbara Thiering and John Shelby Spong in a very engaging and common-sense style.  Probably no longer in print - heresy goes out of fashion so quickly; but still worth a read.

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03 October 2005 10:55pm
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]

Wright’s book is available through Amazon.com @ $9.60 US

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04 October 2005 4:04am
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]

Aaah Barbara Thiering
Probably one of the most ¨why bother¨ of the new heresies.

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13 October 2005 1:58pm
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]

INDIGNANT RAGE!!!!!

WHAT SORT OF A REVIEW IS THIS???????

Seriously, I think someone might want to put the text in the article, it’s pretty silly to have not. I suppose we can make fun of Luke now… :snigger:

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14 October 2005 2:15am
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]

Re: INDIGNANT RAGE!!!!!

[quote author="Lee Herridge"]Seriously, I think someone might want to put the text in the article, it’s pretty silly to have not. I suppose we can make fun of Luke now… :snigger:

I think Luke (and co) reasonably assume that most people won’t be checking out the site at 2am, and thus won’t happen to load the article before it’s completed.

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14 October 2005 2:23am
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]

David and Lee, this is quite amazing. I was just typing up a post that was going to ask Lee to stop posting in tongues and to ask if someone would interpret his jibberish.

Seems you’ve done that, David, at the very moment I was typing.

I think it’s quite a good review. I’m not likely to watch the show it’s covering. But there seem to be some useful conceptual issues in the review to help those who do watch it to turn TV chat at the work coffee break into good pre-evangelistic conversations.

   
14 October 2005 4:20am
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  [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]

Re: INDIGNANT RAGE!!!!!

[quote author="David C Simon"][quote author="Lee Herridge"]Seriously, I think someone might want to put the text in the article, it’s pretty silly to have not. I suppose we can make fun of Luke now… :snigger:

I think Luke (and co) reasonably assume that most people won’t be checking out the site at 2am, and thus won’t happen to load the article before it’s completed.

Yes, I suppose that would be a reasonable assumption, I was just joking after all. Mind you it was only 12 when I posted that (being in WA and all)…

Yeah, I haven’t seen Grey’s Anatomy either but Tracey likes it. The review made it sound ok though, all the promo stuff made me think that the main character was the bloke, so it’s good to have a female lead.

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